Editing Immorality (section)

==Ancient Greece==
[[Callicles]] and [[Thrasymachus]] are two characters of [[Plato]]'s dialogues, [[Gorgias (dialogue)|Gorgias]] and [[Republic (dialogue)|Republic]], respectively, who challenge conventional morality.<ref>{{Citation |last=Barney |first=Rachel |title=Callicles and Thrasymachus |date=2017 |url=https://plato.stanford.edu/archives/fall2017/entries/callicles-thrasymachus/ |encyclopedia=The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy |editor-last=Zalta |editor-first=Edward N. |edition=Fall 2017 |publisher=Metaphysics Research Lab, Stanford University |access-date=2023-02-18}}</ref>

[[Aristotle]] saw many vices as excesses or deficits in relation to some virtue, as cowardice and rashness relate to courage. Some attitudes and actions{{snd}}such as [[envy]], [[murder]], and [[theft]]{{snd}}he saw as [[wrong]] in themselves, with no question of a deficit/excess in relation to the [[Golden mean (philosophy)|mean]].<ref>Aristotle, ''Ethics'' (1976) p. 102</ref>