Editing Incubator escapee wiki:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria/Archive3 (section)

==New stubs==
===Architecture stub===
''created as [[Template:arch-stub]]''

See [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Criteria#Buildings_and_structures_suggestions|Buildings and structures suggestions]], above.  I propose an Arch-stub for architectural terms and building types and features. Currently there are just over 50 stubs in [[:Category:Buildings and structures stubs]] that could take this new template. These articles range from the likes of [[Archivolt]] (architecture term) to [[Folly]] (building type), and [[Bedroom]] (building feature). If anyone can think of a better name for it, or description of it, I'd like to hear it! [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 11:00, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:'''Agree''' I've run into a number of stubs that could have been categorized to this which I didn't categorize to the Struct stub. [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 00:30, 2005 Feb 18 (UTC)
'''Update:''' I've created this stub as <nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:arch-stub|arch-stub]]}}. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 07:47, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

===Band stubs===
''created as [[Template:band-stub]]''

As a subcategory of [[:Category:Musician stubs]]. Would it be enough of a distinction to pull out bands into a separate category? (They're not really biographical articles about musicians, so that categorization is somewhat ambiguous.) This could easily have several hundred articles (no, I am not going to list them all here).  -[[User:Aranel|Aranel]] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 03:54, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:'''Agree'''; sounds reasonable .. and there's certainly >100 band stub wannabees about. [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 00:29, 2005 Feb 18 (UTC)
:'''Agree'''. --[[User:Jag123|jag123]] 03:23, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
::I went ahead and created [[Template:Band-stub]] (which is currently worded so that it can go for all musical groups; the category is [[:Category:Musical group stubs]]). If you're bored, try weeding out the band articles from [[:Category:Music stubs]], where it seems folks have been putting them. (Yet another reason to create needed templates ASAP so we don't have to sort stubs twice...) -[[User:Aranel|Aranel]] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 22:53, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

===Fantasy stub===   
''created as [[Template:fantasy-stub]]''

Fantasy genre that is, in parallel to [[Template:Sf-stub|sf-stub]]. [[User:BlankVerse|BlankVerse]] suggested this above (under [[#Cthulhu]]) and I think there are definitely more than enough articles to go into it. (I can think of at least a dozen that I've run into off the top of my head.) -[[User:Aranel|Aranel]] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 01:30, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Since there have been no objections after several days, I have decided to take the plunge and create the category. See [[Template:Fantasy-stub]]. I think it's fair to do this if there are no objections; it shouldn't take longer to ''create'' a category than it would to ''delete'' it. -[[User:Aranel|Aranel]] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 03:47, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

===Fashion stub===
''created as [[Template:fashion-stub]]''

====Clothing *Withdrawn*====
<s>''for evaluation alongside '''Fashion'''''</s>
perhaps a proposal then, with the clock running from now: [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 04:01, 2005 Feb 15 (UTC)

from [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 04:30, 2005 Feb 14 (UTC)

:[[Purse]] | [[Push-up bra]] | [[Homburg (hat)]] | [[Jersey (clothing)]] | [[Jockstrap]]

from [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 13:21, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:[[Bodice]]

from [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 00:11, 2005 Feb 15 (UTC) ''and a period after''

:[[Basque (clothing)]] | [[Arm warmers]] | [[Girdle]] | [[Tabi]] | [[Zori]] | [[Waraji]] | [[Clogs]] | [[Espadrilles]]

* '''Scope Note proposal''' ([[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 04:01, 2005 Feb 15 (UTC))
** Inclusion: Generic pieces of clothing (e.g. skirt); certain accessories (e.g. purse, hat, tie, fanny-pack); fashion designers (e.g. Christian Dior); clothing brands (e.g. Ozone); clothing technology (e.g. sewing machine, Spandex); clothing trends (e.g. back-to-the-80's); burial "clothing" (e.g. shroud); uniforms (e.g. nurse's uniform)
** Exclusion: specific named pieces of clothing (e.g. Shroud of Turin, Dr. Who's scarf); "dual use" technologies (e.g. velcro, Kevlar); jewelry and accessories that attach to clothing (e.g. necklace, medal, brooch); personal technology (e.g. worn computers, medical devices)
** Consequences:  no stub-category for clothing designers; drawing of items from Brands-stubs, Bio-stubs; possible need for a Jewelry-stub; rolling proposed Fashion-stub into Clothing-stub.

====Fashion *Created*====
* [[Couturier]] ([[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 01:15, 2005 Feb 13 (UTC))
* [[Designer jeans]] ([[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 03:20, 2005 Feb 13 (UTC))
<s>* [[Purse]] ([[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 04:48, 2005 Feb 13 (UTC))</s>
<s>* [[Push-up bra]] (ibid.)</s>
* [[Costume jewelry]] <= maybe an odd one to add here [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 04:30, 2005 Feb 14 (UTC)
* [[Body piercing jewellery]] <= ditto. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 13:21, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

::This should probably be a more general clothing-stub rather than fashion-stub. [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color=#F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>&empty;</font> ]] 13:27, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

::Yes, you're right ... I'll add a non-proposed heading here for evaluation of clothing alongside fashion [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 18:11, 2005 Feb 13 (UTC)

Let's not forget the purpose of stubs here; flag articles that could be expanded. How much is there to say about purses, arm warmers, girdles, sneakers or bras? Short article does not equal stub and stubs don't replace categories. Not only do you not have anywhere near a 100 articles to create a new category, it's probably going to be extremely difficult to expand them. --[[User:Jag123|jag123]] 21:02, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

: OK.  I've noted in the title that this stub proposal is withdrawn as it does not meet minimum requirements .. unless there is objection from any others. [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 02:06, 2005 Feb 16 (UTC)

===Medical treatment stubs===
''created as [[Template:treatment-stub]]''

As a subcategory of [[:Category:Medicine stubs]].  There are >800 medicine stubs right now and this could likely attract >100 stubs of that mass.  There exists a standard category [[:Category:Medical_treatments]] which, with its child-categories, would be the target for expanded articles.
:Proposed stub name: [[Template:treatment-stub]]
:Proposed stub category: [[:Category:Medical_treatment_stubs]]
:Proposed stub icon: picture of a pill?

Thanks for considering this.  [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 06:29, 2005 Feb 17 (UTC)
:Does that include drugs? If so and excluding drugs, could the category have >100 stubs? If not, perhaps we should make a drug stub. --[[User:Jag123|jag123]] 03:21, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
::'''Yes, I was thinking it to include drugs.'''  I'm not sure without drugs if it would reach >100 stubs or not. I made a comment about deletion of a drugs_list category a bit ago which would clarify my thinking a bit; see [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Empty_Orphans_Detected_7_Jan_2005]].  My thinking about making a drug stub is that many treatments consist of multiple drugs or drugs + another  treatment mode; also a significant number of drugs are combinations of pharmacological agents.  [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 03:46, 2005 Feb 18 (UTC)
:::Does anyone still plan to do this? If no one is opposed, I'll go ahead and create it. -[[User:Aranel|Aranel]] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 20:08, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
::::Thanks, Aranel, but I should take care of it as I proposed it ... I'll make the requisite things momentarily and alter the section header here when I'm done. [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 00:40, 2005 Mar 2 (UTC)

'''FYI''': there are already 132 articles in this stub category and about 50-75% of the Medicine stubs still need to be looked at for re-stubbing.  [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 05:11, 2005 Mar 2 (UTC)

===Geometry stubs===
''created as [[Template:geometry-stub]]''

As a subcategory of [[:Category:Math_stubs]].  There are >500 math stubs right now and this could likely attract >100 stubs of that mass.  There exists a standard category [[:Category:Geometry]] which , with its 28 sub-categories, would be the target for expanded articles.
:Proposed stub name: [[Template:geometry-stub]]
:Proposed stub category: [[:Category:Geometry_stubs]]
:Proposed stub icon: a squared circle? a compass? a canted grid?
Thanks for considering this.  [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 06:56, 2005 Feb 17 (UTC)
:'''Agree'''. --[[User:Jag123|jag123]] 03:19, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

===Scientist stubs===
''created as [[Template:scientist-stub]]''

Special case here. I did no known about this page until after I made the stub so this is more like a notification.

:Proposed stub name: [[Template:Scientist-stub]]
:Proposed stub category: Category:Scientist_stub
:Proposed stub icon: Einstein

It is a stub for biographical articles about scientists
 
Rationale: There are currently lot of articles marked stub or science stub that could be classified as Sientists stub. --[[User:LexCorp|LexCorp]] 01:11, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

*[[John Jacob Abel]]
*[[Paul Berg]]
*[[Sune Bergström]] 
*[[Gerardus Johannes Mulder]]
*[[Stanford Moore]]
*[[Leonor Michaelis]]

many more examples at the category page.

'''Agree''' if possible; see my attempt to get rid of generic bio-stubs below. --[[User:YixilTesiphon|YixilTesiphon]] 01:26, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)


:I '''agree''' too. In fact for the same reason [[LexCorp]] mentions, I was already using the scientis-stub to replace some old bio and unstubbed bios. (''sorry'').  [[User:Askewmind|Askewmind]] 01:30, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
:'''Agree'''.  I've already re-stubbed >20 bio-stubs to scientist-stubs (mostly found through Googling and link following). [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 03:55, 2005 Feb 18 (UTC)


*[[Aage Niels Bohr]]
*[[Aleksandr Oparin]]
*[[Alexander Sergeevich Spirin]]
*[[Anders Jonas Ångström]]
*[[André Marie Constant Duméril]]
*[[André-Marie Ampère]]
*[[Ascanio Sobrero]]
*[[Auguste Duméril]]
*[[B. Roy Frieden]]
*[[Carl Chun]]
*[[Carl Correns]]
*[[Cesare Emiliani]]
*[[Charles Galton Darwin]]
*[[Charles-Augustin de Coulomb]]
*[[Christian Doppler]]
*[[David Rittenberg]]
*[[Earl Wilbur Sutherland Jr.]]
*[[Edwin Conklin]]
*[[Erich von Tschermak]]
*[[Ernest Esclangon]]
*[[Ernst Abbe]]
*[[Ernst Chladni]]
*[[Eörs Szathmáry]]
*[[Felix Bloch]]
*[[Fritjof Capra]]
*[[Gabriel Fahrenheit]]
*[[George FitzGerald]]

*Good call, I '''agree'''. Since stub is already created, it should be used when possible. --[[User:Jag123|jag123]] 03:13, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

===Sex stub===
''created as [[Template:sex-stub]]''

====Um...====
Is it just my (admittedly warped) imagination, or do there seem to be a lot of "sexual practice" related stubs around? I'm not even sure what you'd call the stub category, since it ranges from [[Bondage mittens]] to [[child prostitution]], via [[Chinese raping chair]] and [[Felching]]. Any thoughts? Name suggestions? [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 01:41, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Other articles found so far (those marked with an asterisk may or may not qualify, depending on definition):
:[[Cupcake party]], [[Friend of Dorothy]]*, [[Compersion]]*, [[Erotic furniture]], [[Frenum piercing]], [[Fart fetishism]], [[Fire play]], [[Harpaxophilia]]. [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 01:41, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
::Yes, there are lots of them and they become more prominant as more items are sorted out of general-stub.  A stub category congruent with [[:Category:Sexology]] would be useful, in fact ...

=====Sexology stubs *sex-stub exists*=====
''carrying on from the "Um..." thread''

As a top level category (child of [[:Category:Stub_categories]]).  There are lots of potential stubs for this category. [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 02:13, 2005 Feb 19 (UTC)

:Proposed stub name: [[Template:sex-stub]]
:Proposed stub cateogry: [[:Category:Sexology-stubs]]
:Proposed stub icon: ''are you kidding; I'm not touchin' that one''

:Well, '''it already exists''' - hmm. [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 02:16, 2005 Feb 19 (UTC)
::Ah... useful. Shame it wasn't listed anywhere! [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 02:56, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

===Weather stub===
''created as [[Template:climate-stub]]

not discussed before, there are numerous stubby weather articles without labels, or are labeled as sci-stub or geo-stubs
*'''Wrong name''' Use meteo-stub (meteorology) over weather-stub. --[[User:Circeus|Circeus]] 17:39, Feb 8, 2005 (UTC)
**Nobody is going to remember meteo-stub. Either make it meteorology-stub or weather-stub. When a topic stub is created, it has to be easy to remember or it will never be used. [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= 	#F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>&empty;</font>]] 09:08, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
***I favour weather-stub. Okay, it may not be as precise a term as meteorology-stub, but it's a hell of a lot easier to both spell and type! [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 08:08, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
**** Go for weather --[[User:AllyUnion| AllyUnion]] [[User talk:AllyUnion|(talk)]] 08:14, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
***Hmm, what about met-stub? People talk about the met.office, so it shouldn't be too hard to remember... [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 08:23, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
:Someone has already put up [[:Template:climate-stub]], and entered it on [[Wikipedia:Stub_categories]], associated with [[:Category:Climatology_-_Meteorology_stubs]].  The template was created on 14 Feb by [[User:Vsmith|Vsmith]] ...([[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 17:38, 2005 Feb 14 (UTC)
::Good template, awkward category name. -[[User:Aranel|Aranel]] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 01:38, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
* Considering a '''scope note''' for [[Template:climate-stub]]
** To include: general climate phenomena, specific types of climate, seasons, climate zones, methods, personalities, associations, broadcasters (like ''The Weather Channel''), specific named weather events.
** To exclude: <s>specific named events such as named hurricanes (though hurricane is a perfect topic), the 2004 Tsunami (though tsunami as a topic, yes), the "Blizzard of '98" (though blizzard conditions and factors leading to blizzards and their severity, yes).</s>
** Implications: no future "weatherman stub category" or "cloudforms stub category"; possible future "hurricanes by name" or "climate events by name", "climate events by year", etc. stub categories.
::''this type of detail of what's in, what's out, and what the implications are, might be helpful for more specific stub categorization with less inter-operator variability.  Thoughts?''
:: [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 03:29, 2005 Feb 15 (UTC)
:::Is there any particular reason why the weather category ''shouldn't'' include specific instances of weather? (If it starts to get over-crowded with hurricanes, we can create a separate sub-category for them, of course.) -[[User:Aranel|Aranel]] ("<font color="#ba0000"><u>Sarah</u></font>") 03:43, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
::::Not particularly, except I was thinking of them as either a) historical events or b) geographical items ... however, it does make sense to start out with them generally included ... changed above. [[User:Ceyockey|Courtland]] 04:10, 2005 Feb 15 (UTC)
::Phew - since I added at least one Hurricane stub to that category earlier today, I'm quite pleased! (I purged geo-term-stub of all weather related items and put them in the new category). [[User:Grutness| Grutness]]|<sup>[[User_talk:Grutness|hello?]]</sup> [[Image:Grutness.jpg|25px|]] 04:16, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)