Editing Math rock (section)

== History and precursors ==

The albums ''[[Red (King Crimson album)|Red]]'' and ''[[Discipline (King Crimson album)|Discipline]]'' by [[King Crimson]],<ref>{{cite web |last1=Sodomsky |first1=Sam |title=King Crimson Red |url=https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/king-crimson-red/ |website=Condé Nast |publisher=Pitchfork |access-date=14 February 2020}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |first=Dominique |last=Leone |date=21 Nov 2002 |title=The Top 100 Albums of the 1980s |url=https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-top-100-albums-of-the-1980s/?page=5 |work=Pitchfork |access-date=16 Mar 2021}}</ref> as well as ''[[Spiderland]]'' by [[Slint]],<ref>{{cite web |last1=Stablein |first1=Lee |title=Under The Influence #24: Lapsarian on "Spiderland" by Slint! |url=https://metalnoise.net/2019/12/under-the-influence-24-lapsarian-on-spiderland-by-slint |website=Metal Noise |access-date=15 February 2020}}</ref> are generally considered seminal influences on the development of math rock.  The Canadian [[punk rock]] group [[Nomeansno]] (founded in 1979 and inactive as of 2016) have been cited by music critics as a "secret influence" on math rock,<ref>{{cite web | url={{AllMusic|class=album|id=r14208/review|pure_url=yes}} | title=Live and Cuddly | access-date=August 1, 2007 | publisher=Allmusic}}</ref> predating much of the genre's development by more than a decade. An even more avant-garde group of the same era, [[Massacre (experimental band)|Massacre]], featured the guitarist [[Fred Frith]] and the bassist [[Bill Laswell]]. With some influence from the rapid-fire energy of punk, Massacre's influential music used complex rhythmic characteristics. [[Black Flag (band)|Black Flag]]'s 1984 album, ''[[My War]]'', also included unusual [[polyrhythm]]s.<ref name="Blush2010">{{cite book |last = Blush |first = Steven |author-link=Steven Blush |title = American Hardcore: A Tribal History |chapter = Black Flag & SST: Thirsty and miserable |chapter-url = https://books.google.com/books?id=PFJjCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA72 |year = 2010 |publisher = [[Feral House]] |location = Los Angeles |isbn = 978-1-932595-98-7 |page = 72 |quotation =... its seven-minute Metal dirges and Fusion-style time signatures confused many fans. }}</ref>

Two songs on [[Yes (band)|Yes]]' album ''[[Fragile (Yes album)|Fragile]]'' (1971) have drawn attention – [[Paul Lester]] of ''[[Classic Rock (magazine)|Classic Rock]]'' writes that "[[Five Per Cent for Nothing]]" finds drummer [[Bill Bruford]] "inventing math rock",<ref>{{cite web |last1=Lester |first1=Paul |title=Yes: Fragile |url=https://www.loudersound.com/reviews/yes-fragile-1 |website=Classic Rock |access-date=6 August 2024 |date=27 November 2015}}</ref> while "[[Heart of the Sunrise]]" was described by ''[[Pitchfork (website)|Pitchfork]]''{{'}}s Chris Dahlen, [[Dominique Leone]] and Joe Tangari as "a deftly constructed proto math-rock epic".<ref>{{cite web |url=http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/11869-the-yes-album-fragile-close-to-the-edge-tales-from-topographic-oceans-relayer-going-for-the-one-tormato-drama-90125/#review-album-13614/ |first1=Chris |last1=Dahlen |first2=Dominique |last2=Leone |first3=Joe |last3=Tangari |date=8 February 2004 |title=Pitchfork: Album Reviews: Yes: ''The Yes Album'' / ''Fragile'' / ''Close to the Edge'' / ''Tales from Topographic Oceans'' / ''Relayer'' / ''Going for the One ''/ ''Tormato'' / ''Drama'' / ''90125'' |publisher=Pitchfork |access-date=19 January 2008}}</ref>

Examples of modern math rock bands include [[Delta Sleep]],<ref>{{Cite web |title=Delta Sleep Songs, Albums, Reviews, Bio & More... |url=https://www.allmusic.com/artist/delta-sleep-mn0003086342 |access-date=2024-12-05 |website=AllMusic |language=en}}</ref> [[Yvette Young|Covet]],<ref>{{Cite web |author1=Michael Astley-Brown |date=2023-04-05 |title=Yvette Young names the 10(+) guitarists who shaped her sound |url=https://www.guitarworld.com/features/yvette-young-names-the-guitarists-who-shaped-her-sound |access-date=2024-12-06 |website=guitarworld |language=en}}</ref> [[Tricot (band)|Tricot]],<ref>{{Cite web |title=Tricot Songs, Albums, Reviews, Bio & More {{!}} Al... |url=https://www.allmusic.com/artist/tricot-mn0002921789 |access-date=2024-12-05 |website=AllMusic |language=en}}</ref> and [[TTNG]].<ref>{{Cite web |title=This Town Needs Guns Songs, Albums, Reviews, B... |url=https://www.allmusic.com/artist/this-town-needs-guns-mn0001059202#biography |access-date=2024-12-05 |website=AllMusic |language=en}}</ref>