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==Fringe views on alternative origins== === Suggested link to Goths === The Getae are sometimes confused with the [[Goths]] in works of early medieval authors.<ref>[[Theodor Mommsen]] (2005). ''[https://books.google.com/books?id=Dk2FAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA281 A History of Rome Under the Emperors]''. New York: [[Routledge]]. p. 281. "The Getae were [[Thracians]], the Goths [[Germanic peoples|Germans]], and apart from the coincidental similarity in their names they had nothing whatever in common."</ref><ref>[[David Punter]] (2015). ''[https://books.google.com/books?id=0qGLBgAAQBAJ&pg=PA31 A New Companion to The Gothic]''. Hoboken, New Jersey: [[John Wiley & Sons]]. p. 31.</ref><ref>Robert W. Rix (2014). ''[https://books.google.com/books?id=OTtWBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA33 The Barbarian North in Medieval Imagination: Ethnicity, Legend, and Literature]''. New York: [[Routledge]]. p. 33.</ref><ref>[[Harold W. Attridge]] (1992). ''[https://books.google.com/books?id=jVyzbHAJ_hAC&pg=PA696 Eusebius, Christianity, and Judaism]''. Detroit, Michigan: [[Wayne State University Press]]. p. 696.</ref><ref>Irmeli Valtonen (2008). ''[https://books.google.com/books?id=qkEcAQAAIAAJ The North in the Old English Orosius: A Geographical Narrative in Context]''. Helsinki: Société Néophilologique. p. 110.</ref> This confusion is notably expanded on in works of [[Jordanes]], himself of Gothic background, who transferred earlier historical narratives about the Getae to the Goths.<ref>Shami Ghosh (2015). ''[https://books.google.com/books?id=KHHsCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA49 Writing the Barbarian Past: Studies in Early Medieval Historical Narrative]''. Leiden: [[Brill Publishers]]. pp. 49–50.</ref> At the close of the 4th century AD, [[Claudian]], court poet to the emperor [[Flavius Augustus Honorius|Honorius]] and the [[Patrician (ancient Rome)|patrician]] [[Stilicho]], uses the ethnonym ''Getae'' to refer to the [[Visigoths]]. During 5th and 6th centuries, several historians and ethnographers ([[Marcellinus Comes]], [[Paulus Orosius|Orosius]], [[John Lydus]], [[Isidore of Seville]], [[Procopius of Caesarea]]) used the same ethnonym ''Getae'' to name populations invading the [[Eastern Roman Empire]] ([[Goths]], [[Gepids]], [[Kutrigurs]], [[Slavs]]). For instance, in the third book of the ''[[s:History of the Wars/Book III|History of the Wars]]'' [[Procopius]] details: "There were many Gothic nations in earlier times, just as also at the present, but the greatest and most important of all are the Goths, Vandals, Visigoths, and Gepaedes. In ancient times, however, they were named Sauromatae and Melanchlaeni; and there were some too who called these nations Getic."<ref>[[s:History of the Wars/Book III#II|Procopius. ''History of the Wars'', Book III (Wikisource)]].</ref> The Getae were considered the same people as the Goths by [[Jordanes]] in his ''[[The Origin and Deeds of the Goths|Getica]]'' written at the middle of the 6th century. He also claims that at one point the "Getae" migrated out of [[Scandza]], while identifying their deity [[Zalmoxis]] as a Gothic king. Jordanes assumed the earlier testimony of Orosius. The 9th-century work ''De Universo'' of [[Rabanus Maurus]] states, "The Massagetae are in origin from the tribe of the Scythians, and are called Massagetae, as if heavy, that is, strong Getae.<ref>{{cite book |title=De universo |last=Maurus |first=Rabanus |author-link=Rabanus Maurus |editor-last=Migne |editor-first=Jacques Paul |year=1864|location=Paris |quote=The Massagetae are in origin from the tribe of the Scythians, and are called Massagetae, as if heavy, that is, strong Getae.}}</ref> === Suggested link to Jats === There have long been attempts to link the Getae and [[Massagetae]] to the [[Jat people|Jats]] of South Asia. Likewise, the Dacians have been linked to the [[Dahae]] of Central Asia (and the Dahae to the [[Dasas]] of South Asia).[[W. W. Hunter]] claimed in 1886, suggested that the Jats were an [[Iranian peoples|Iranian people]] – most likely [[Scythian]]/[[Saka]] in origin,<ref>W. W. Hunter, 2013, ''The Indian Empire: Its People, History and Products'', Routledge, 2013, p. 179-180.</ref> [[Alexander Cunningham]] (1888) believed that references in classical European sources{{snd}}like [[Strabo]], [[Ptolemy]] and [[Pliny the Elder|Pliny]]{{snd}}to peoples such as the ''[[Zath]]s'', may have been the Getae and/or Jats.<ref name="cunningham">Alexander Cunningham, 1888, cited by: Sundeep S. Jhutti, 2003, ''The Getes'', Philadelphia, PA; Department of East Asian languages & Civilizations University of Pennsylvania, p. 13.</ref><ref name="Jhutti">[http://www.sino-platonic.org/complete/spp127_getes.pdf Sundeep S. Jhutti, 2003, "The Getes", ''Sino-Platonic Papers'', no. 127 (October)], pp. 15–17. (Access: 18 March 2016).</ref> More recent authors, like [[Tadeusz Sulimirski]],<ref>{{cite book |title=The Sarmatians: Volume 73 of Ancient peoples and places |pages=113–114 |last=Sulimirski |first=Tadeusz |author-link=Tadeusz Sulimirski |publisher=Praeger |location=New York |year=1970 |isbn=9789080057272 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=gdjhuAAACAAJ |quote=The evidence of both the ancient authors and the archaeological remains point to a massive migration of Sacian (Sakas)/Massagetan ("great" Jat) tribes from the Syr Daria Delta (Central Asia) by the middle of the second century B.C. Some of the Syr Darian tribes; they also invaded North India.}}</ref> [[Weer Rajendra Rishi]],<ref>{{cite book |title= India & Russia: linguistic & cultural affinity |page=95 | last=Rishi |first=Weer Rajendra |author-link=Weer Rajendra Rishi |publisher=Roma |year=1982 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Vns_AAAAMAAJ&q=Getae}}</ref> and Chandra Chakraberty,<ref>{{cite book |title=The prehistory of India: tribal migrations |first=Chandra |last=Chakraberty |publisher=Vijayakrishna Bros |year=1948 |page=35}}</ref><ref>{{cite book |title=Racial basis of Indian culture: including Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Nepal |first=Chandra |last=Chakraberty |publisher=Aryan Books International |year=1997 |isbn=8173051100}}</ref> have also linked the Getae and Jats. Less credible, however, are parallel claims by Alexander Cunningham that the ''[[Xanthii]]'' (or ''Zanthi'') and ''[[Iatioi]]''{{snd}}mentioned by Strabo, Ptolemy and Pliny{{snd}}may have been synonymous with the Getae and/or Jats.<ref name="cunningham"/> The ''Xanthii'' were later established to be a subgroup (tribe or clan) of the Dahae. Subsequent scholars, such as [[Edwin Pulleyblank]], [[Josef Markwart]] (also known as Joseph Marquart) and [[László Torday]], suggest that ''Iatioi'' may be another name for a people known in classical Chinese sources as the [[Yuezhi]] and in South Asian contexts as the ''[[Kushan Empire|Kuṣānas]]'' (or Kushans).<ref name="Jhutti"/>
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