Editing David Korn (computer scientist) (section)

==Korn shell and Microsoft==
[[Microsoft]] once included a version of the Korn shell produced by [[Mortice Kern Systems]] (MKS) in a UNIX integration package for [[Windows NT]].{{discuss|poorly sourced anecdote}} This version was not compatible with ksh88 (a Korn shell specification), and Korn mentioned this during a question and answer period of a Microsoft presentation during a [[USENIX]] NT conference in [[Seattle]] in 1998. Greg Sullivan, a Microsoft product manager who was participating in the presentation, not knowing who the commenter was, insisted that Microsoft had indeed chosen a "real" Korn shell. A polite debate ensued, with Sullivan continuing to insist that the man giving the criticisms was mistaken about the compatibility issues. Sullivan only backed down when an audience member stood up and mentioned that the man making the comments was none other than the eponymous David Korn.<ref>{{cite web
 |title=NTnx 98...You Are There
 |at=Section: Microsoft's "Services for UNIX"
 |first=George M.
 |last=Jones
 |type=Recap of USENIX LISA-NT 1998 conference, published in USENIX's own [[;login:]]
 |url=https://www.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/usenix-nt98/ntnix.html
 |url-status=live
 |access-date=2025-03-28
 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160606014657/https://www.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/usenix-nt98/ntnix.html
 |archive-date=2016-06-06
 |quote=Last but not least in the UNIX/NT integration arena, we must mention Microsoft's "Services for UNIX," announced during the NT futures session. Herein lies a story. Greg Sullivan, the Microsoft product manager for "Services for NT," gets up to describe the product. They're including the Intergraph NFS client and server, "telnet clients and servers that [really work]," and some UNIX command line tools and shells. People asked what the source of the tools and shells was. "MKS." So, a guy goes up to the microphone and starts pointing out where the MKS Korn shell deviates from the specs for the various versions of the Korn shell. To which Mr. Sullivan replies, "Well, do you know of anything better?" To which someone else in the audience replies, "That's David Korn." Can you say "setup"? Can you say "lion's den"?
}}</ref><ref>{{cite web
 |title=David Korn Tells All
 |type=Interview with David Korn
 |date=2001-02-07
 |website=[[Slashdot]]<!-- slashdot.org -->
 |url=http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/02/06/2030205
 |access-date=2025-03-28
 |url-status=live
 |archive-url=https://news.slashdot.org/story/01/02/06/2030205/david-korn-tells-all
 |archive-date=2012-08-20
}}</ref><ref>{{cite mailing list
 |mailing-list=freebsd-chat
 |title=It's easier to port a shell than a shell script. -- Larry Wall
 |type=A person's take on the David Korn encounter
 |author=<!-- unknown; message forwarded to freebsd-chat mailing list by Joel Ray Holveck -->
 |date=1998-08-29<!-- This is the date the forwarded message made it to the freebsd-chat message; the 1998 USENIX LISA-NT conference was held August 6-8. -->
 |url=https://mail-archive.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?199808290627.BAA01517
 |access-date=2025-03-28
 |url-status=live
 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20250328194421/https://mail-archive.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=156953+0+archive/1998/freebsd-chat/19980823.freebsd-chat
 |archive-date=2025-03-28
}}</ref>