Editing Mathcore (section)

=== Lyrics ===
Early mathcore lyrics were addressed from a realistic worldview and with a pessimistic, defiant, resentful or sarcastic point of view. They have been singled out for their philosophical and poetic elements.<ref name=wang/><ref name=coalesce_prindle>{{cite web|access-date=February 24, 2018|title=Coalesce|website=Markprindle.com|url=https://www.markprindle.com/coalesce.htm|url-status=dead|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080617141138/http://www.markprindle.com/coalesce.htm|archive-date=June 17, 2008}}</ref><ref name=coalesce_svbterranean>{{cite web|access-date=February 25, 2018|url=https://svbterranean.net/2017/03/01/march-madness-coalesce-functioning-on-impatience/|first=Lane |last=Oliver |date=March 1, 2017|title=March Madness: COALESCE – "Functioning on Impatience"|website=Svbterranean.net|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170302160922/https://svbterranean.net/2017/03/01/march-madness-coalesce-functioning-on-impatience/|archive-date=March 2, 2017}}</ref>{{sfn|Mudrian|2009|p=322|ps=. What were the lyrical influences?<br>[[Dave Verellen]]: [...] stuff that I witnessed was usually what had an impact on me. I'd look at a social situation or whatever was going on in the world, and then just try to be creative with it. [...] I was a [[Joan of Arc (band)|Joan of Arc]] fan, [...] and half the reason was because the guy [[Tim Kinsella]] had such weird lyrics. I've always been attracted to abstract stuff like that, so I think that's where I drew most of my lyrics from.}}<ref>{{cite web|access-date=February 26, 2018|quote=Jacob Bannon loves to wax poetic, so when his opaque elegies suddenly turn to simple, direct metaphors, it's almost like your parents calling you by your full name: you stop, you notice, you listen.|title=The Brilliance Behind Converge's Unintelligible Lyrics|first=Scott|last=Butterworth|date=December 23, 2014|website=[[Noisey]]|url=https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-brilliance-behind-converges-unintelligible-lyrics/|url-status=live|archive-url=https://archive.today/20180226062412/https://noisey.vice.com/en_ca/article/65zzbd/the-brilliance-behind-converges-unintelligible-lyrics|archive-date=February 26, 2018}}</ref> Some bands satirized and criticized the militant branches of the [[hardcore punk ideologies]] prominent in the 1990s.<ref name=coalesce>{{cite web|access-date=February 15, 2018|url=http://www.crashandbang.com/?page_id=3|title=History |author=Ryan J. Downey|date=September 2007|website=[[Alternative Press (magazine)|Alternative Press]]|publisher=www.crashandbang.com|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080418112603/http://www.crashandbang.com/?page_id=3|archive-date=April 18, 2008}}</ref>{{sfn|Mudrian|2009|p=321-322, 323}} Others, such as Converge's [[Jacob Bannon]] and The Dillinger Escape Plan's [[Dimitri Minakakis]], wrote about deeply personal issues.<ref>{{cite web|access-date=February 24, 2018|url=https://pitchfork.com/features/song-by-song/converges-jacob-bannon-untangles-the-meaning-of-every-song-on-his-bands-new-album-the-dusk-in-us/|title=Converge's Jacob Bannon Untangles the Meaning of Every Song on His Band's New Album, The Dusk in Us|website=[[Pitchfork.com]]|date=November 7, 2017|first=Matthew |last=Schnipper|url-status=live|archive-date=November 7, 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20171107125143/https://pitchfork.com/features/song-by-song/converges-jacob-bannon-untangles-the-meaning-of-every-song-on-his-bands-new-album-the-dusk-in-us/}}</ref>{{sfn|Mudrian|2009|p=314-315}}

Although musically rooted in extreme metal, some mathcore artists have shown contempt for extreme metal fictional and horror lyrics.<ref>{{cite web|access-date=February 23, 2018|url=http://veilsofteeth.com/jacob-bannon/|title=Jacob Bannon (Converge) |first=Greg |last=Svitil |date = 1996|website = Veilsofteeth.com|quote=[[Jacob Bannon]]: I feel that [bands such as] [[Slayer]] are the [[This Is Spinal Tap|Spinal Tap]] of metal. There's nothing to them. They're just there, and they're just a band that likes to write heavy, scary things. And there's really not an emotional depth to anything they really do. It's just all for [[shock value]]. |url-status = live|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20180223102326/http://veilsofteeth.com/jacob-bannon/|archive-date=February 23, 2018}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|access-date=February 23, 2018|url=https://www.rocksound.tv/news/read/dillinger-escape-plan-guitarist-talks-new-album-and-papa-roach|title=Dillinger Escape Plan Guitarist Talks New Album And Papa Roach|website=[[Rock Sound]]|date=April 24, 2009 |quote=Ben Weinman: When I was growing up I discovered metal and it interested me, I liked that it was dark and talked about the fact that the world is not all puppy dogs and ice cream cones. But then it just got ridiculous, humorous, I look at black metal bands and they are supposed to be so evil. But it's not real. It's about fiction. About goblins and the gates of hell, pretty much a bad horror movie. |url-status = live|archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20150413054345/https://www.rocksound.tv/news/read/dillinger-escape-plan-guitarist-talks-new-album-and-papa-roach|archive-date=April 13, 2015}}</ref>

[[File:The Dillinger Escape Plan-1.jpg|thumb|150px|Greg Puciato singing while hanging head down from the ceiling in 2008]]