Editing Incubator escapee wiki:Browser notes (section)

== Old and discontinued browsers ==

===NCSA MOSAIC===
The latest version (3.0 from 1997) of [[Mosaic (web browser)|NCSA MOSAIC]] will not load Wikimedia pages due to lack of support for the HTTP 1.1 host header system.

===NetPositive===
[[NetPositive]] ran only on [[BeOS]]. Not all elements of the CSS recognized, though still fairly functional. NetPositive has issues with some HTML entities on repeated editing (replacing entities by the character glyph), so be careful. 

===Netscape===
The very old [[Netscape Navigator]], cannot edit long pages. See [[Wikipedia:Article size]].

On Unix in version 4.x: Problems with <nowiki><div></nowiki> marked images; sometimes crashes when one writes a new article or heavily edits an existing one.

On Mac OS in version 4.5: overlapping text and quick bar under cologne blue settings, may add weird space in text; some encoding issues.

===Internet Explorer for Mac===
[[Internet Explorer for Mac OS X]] runs only on classic Mac OS.
* 4.5: logging off from one wiki to another. Some encoding issues.
* 5.2.3: Some text is invisible, with no apparent pattern. The words disappear mid-sentence, or even mid-word, and reappear a few words or sentences later.
* 5.5: sometimes freeze the edit window

===Opera on Mac OS===
* 5.0: cut long pages in editing mode; encoding issues. Overlapping text and bar in some pages (prefs)
* 6.0: add undesirable blank lines, crashes unexpectedly

===iCab on Mac OS===
Side toolbar appears in wrong location (below any main text).

===Old Firefox===
Prior to Firefox 2, the find-as-you-type text search ignored the edit window. [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189039 Bugzilla@Mozilla bug 189309] documents the issue, which does not occur in the newer version, [[Mozilla Firefox#Version 3.0|Firefox 3]].

Prior to Firefox 3, when editing, Firefox changed all [[non-breaking space]]s ([[hexadecimal]] 0xA0) to breakable spaces (hexadecimal 0x20).  [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218277 Bugzilla@Mozilla bug 218277] documents the issue, which does not occur in the newer version, [[Mozilla Firefox#Version 3.0|Firefox 3]].

===Safari on Windows===
[[Safari (web browser)|Safari]] on Windows renders fonts using its own algorithm that yields results differing slightly from the native Windows font renderer.[http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/06/12.html]

===Palm OS 5.4.5/Blazer 4.0/PalmOne Treo 650===
'''Default settings'''
*[[Image:DefaultBlazerWikiRendering.png|frame|right|Default monobook skin rendering on the Treo650's Blazer.]] Site is unreadable ([[Wikipedia:Main Page alternatives/(simple layout)]]). Prior to everything downloading (and thus, prior to final rendering) page displays as plain text with links and basic formatting. After final rendering, the page is squashed into a thin vertical strip a few characters wide. This effect occurs with either "wide page" or "optimized" views. Same effect with the main front page, the "table free pages", and all article pages.
*[[Special:UserLogin|Registered users]] can work around these problems by configuring a different skin such as Cologne Blue or by installing their own style sheets for the various skins.
*If the page loading is stopped midway, the original "non-rendered" version remains and is fully functional and readable. Timing when to stop the load (after content loads, but before the styling loads) is very difficult.
*In ''Fast Mode'', using the option to disable CSS may also provide usable results (tested on Blazer 4.5 - Treo 700p)
* Large pages do not display completely. Editing large sections of text may not be successful.

'''Cologne Blue'''
* Readable and quite usable; logging in from a Palm device to switch to Cologne Blue may be a problem. After [[Special:UserLogin|logging in]], use the "[[Special:Preferences|my preferences]]" link at the top of the page to select different skins.

'''User installed style-sheets'''
*Wikipedia allows users to [[Special:UserLogin|create accounts]] and upload style-sheets (amongst other things) to override/customize the rendering of pages via skins when logged in as that user-account. A style-sheet is required per skin. In the examples that follow the default monobook skin is assumed to have been selected. It is best to create a separate user-account for handheld viewing as the resulting rendering is illegible on most desktop browsers.
*To start-off key in the URL for the per-user-account monobook style-sheet - '''en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/User:''user-account-name''/monobook.css''' into the browser. Replace the italicized ''user-account-name'' in the URL with the account name for handheld viewing. The site might complain that the page was not found - which makes sense as it has not been created yet.
*Click on the '''edit this page''' tab at the top of the page. Copy in the boxed contents below into the edit region.

<pre>#column-content {
    margin: 0 0 0 0;
    line-height: 1em;
    float: none;
}
#content {
    margin: 0.0em 0 0 0; /* Change the 0.0em to 2.8em to make */
                         /* extra white space at the top of a wiki page */
                         /* The 0.0em causes the tab buttons at */
                         /* the top ("edit this page", etc) to disappear */
                         /* on gecko based browsers. In such a situation hit */
                         /* "alt+shift+e" to edit this page */
    line-height: 1em;
    padding: 0 0 0 0.2em;
}
/* Something about the above two sets of lines makes all content flow */
/* linearly down the page */
#column-one {
    padding-top: 0px;
    line-height: 1em;
}
#p-logo {
    position: relative;
}
#globalWrapper {
    font-size: 100%; /* Sets all fonts to normal size */
    line-height: 1em;
}
#contentSub {
    font-size: 100%; /* Sets all fonts to normal size */
    margin: 0 0 0 0; /* Removes margins */
    line-height: 1em;
    color: #FFFFFF; /* Sets the background to white */
}

ul, ol, li, dt, dd, p, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 {
    line-height: 1em;
} /* Packs lines nicely*/

div.tright, div.tleft {
    border-width: 0 0 0 0;
    line-height: 1em;
    padding: 0 0 0 0;
} /* Shrinks thumb picture frames as much as possible. */

div.thumb div div.thumbcaption {
    line-height: 1em;
    padding: 0 0 0 0;
} /* Shrinks thumb picture frames as much as possible. */
</pre>

*Save the page by clicking on the ''Save page'' button at the bottom of the edit window.
*On your handheld, browse over to en.Wikipedia.org and log in as the user-account created. This will be hard with the single-character width rendering - but it'll be the last time you'll have to - if all goes well.
*Key in a favorite Wikipedia page. If it renders badly, hit the refresh button. Thereafter rendering should be legible. Sample screenshots follow:
[[Image:TopOfPage.png|frame|left|Rendering of the beginning of an article using [[Wikipedia:Browser_notes#Palm_OS_5.4.5.2FBlazer_4.0.2FPalmOne_Treo_650|custom user.css]].]]
[[Image:Contents.png|frame|center|''Contents'' section (list items) rendering using [[Wikipedia:Browser_notes#Palm_OS_5.4.5.2FBlazer_4.0.2FPalmOne_Treo_650|custom user.css]].]]
[[Image:ThumbNailImages.png|frame|left|Inline article image rendering using [[Wikipedia:Browser_notes#Palm_OS_5.4.5.2FBlazer_4.0.2FPalmOne_Treo_650|custom user.css]].]]
[[Image:RegularParagraphs.png|frame|center|Regular paragraph rendering using [[Wikipedia:Browser_notes#Palm_OS_5.4.5.2FBlazer_4.0.2FPalmOne_Treo_650|custom user.css]].]]
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