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===Issues with Victory and subsequent touring=== In May 2002, as Thursday's signing to [[The Island Def Jam Music Group|Island Def Jam]] had become imminent, the band released a statement through their website detailing their internal problems with Victory and reasons for leaving. The band said they had higher aspirations for the album art for ''Full Collapse'', which were undone by Brummel's desire to keep costs down. During a visit to Victory's offices, they also discovered that for promotional purposes, the label made Thursday-branded [[whoopee cushion]]s, which were intended to be distributed to fans at the Warped Tour. They were produced without Thursday's consent and so were discontinued. The band continually emphasized the need to communicate regarding art direction and promotion, but were allegedly ignored by Brummel and told that Victory was too big to run everything past its artists.<ref name=PNstatement>{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/3601/thursday-exposes-victory-officially-announces-island-signing|title=Thursday exposes Victory / officially announces Island signing!|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Heisel, Scott|date=May 22, 2002|access-date=February 5, 2018|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170803215453/https://www.punknews.org/article/3601/thursday-exposes-victory-officially-announces-island-signing|archive-date=August 3, 2017}}</ref> Rickly recalled that upon signing, the label told them that they wanted Thursday to be their own [[Pop music|pop]] iteration of Saves the Day.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://in-your-ear.net/features/interviews/thursday/|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20050113045354/http://in-your-ear.net/features/interviews/thursday/|title=Thursday The Language of Thursday|publisher=In Your Ear Magazine|author=Edwards, Melissa|date=October–November 2003|archivedate=January 13, 2005|accessdate=April 8, 2023}}</ref> In a meeting with Brummel, he claimed that Thursday was not living up to his expectations, with the band's statement explaining: "Instead of Tony's relationship with us being based on a love for music, it was based entirely on numbers." However, by late 2001, Brummel began showing more concern for the band and called more frequently regarding sales. They soon learned that Brummel planned to sell part of Victory to [[MCA Records|MCA]] and, as Thursday's contract only allowed them to leave Victory for a [[major label]], began reciprocating new-found interest from prominent labels. By early 2002, the decision to join Island was made as MCA began promoting ''Full Collapse'' as their own,<ref name=PNstatement/> and Thursday found itself in a legal battle with the label. Rickly would later note: "When we parted ways with Victory, we got our asses kicked. [...] Victory's lawyers were so strong."<ref>{{cite web|url=https://idobi.com/news/thursdays-victory-treaty-causes-uproar/|title=Thursday's Victory Treaty Causes Uproar|publisher=[[Idobi Radio|idobi]]|author=Fiasco, Lance|date=July 10, 2007|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=February 18, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210218153318/https://idobi.com/news/thursdays-victory-treaty-causes-uproar/|url-status=live}}</ref> "Cross Out the Eyes" was released to [[modern rock]] radio stations on June 10, 2002.<ref>Adored 2002, p. 30</ref> Between late June and mid-August, the band went on the 2002 Warped Tour.<ref>{{cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/76558/warped-tour-to-kick-off-in-late-june|title=Warped Tour To Kick Off In Late June|magazine=Billboard|date=March 7, 2002|access-date=February 11, 2017|archive-date=February 12, 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170212091211/http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/76558/warped-tour-to-kick-off-in-late-june|url-status=live}}</ref> Following this, the band appeared at the Bizarre, [[Pukkelpop]], [[Reading and Leeds Festivals]].<ref name=VictoryTour080202>{{cite web|url=http://www.victoryrecords.com/tours.html|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20020802143804/http://www.victoryrecords.com/tours.html|title=Tours|publisher=Victory Records|archive-date=August 2, 2002|access-date=February 18, 2021|url-status=live}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/3163/vagrant-gets-bizarre|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200514154425/http://punknews.org/article/3163/vagrant-gets-bizarre|title=Vagrant gets bizarre|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Heisel, Scott|date=April 3, 2002|archive-date=May 14, 2020|access-date=February 20, 2021|url-status=live}}</ref> Though the band were not planning on doing another tour, they appeared at three shows on the [[Plea for Peace Foundation|Plea for Peace]] tour.<ref name=Kludgeinterview/><ref name=VictoryTour080202/> Keeley said the band had heard about the tour from the previous year, and felt it was an appropriate way to end the touring cycle for ''Full Collapse''.<ref name=Kludgeinterview/> Live versions of "Understanding in a Car Crash", "Autobiography of a Nation", "Paris in Flames", and "Standing on the Edge of Summer" would appear on the band's second EP ''[[Five Stories Falling]]'' (2002).<ref>{{cite AV media notes|title=Five Stories Falling|author=Thursday|year=2002|type=sleeve|publisher=Victory Records|id=VR-189}}</ref> Thursday would later use Victory's lawyers to leave Island in 2007 and reunite with Brummel to work on the live/video album ''[[Kill the House Lights]]'' (2007). It chronicles the band's career with a documentary and concert footage emphasizing the ''Full Collapse'' era. It also features demos and alternate versions of songs from that album.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564369/thursday-knew-victory-treaty-would-confuse-everybody.jhtml|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121020052912/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564369/thursday-knew-victory-treaty-would-confuse-everybody.jhtml|url-status=dead|title=Thursday Knew Victory Treaty 'Would Confuse Everybody'|publisher=[[MTV]]|author=Harris, Chris|date=July 9, 2007|archive-date=October 20, 2012|access-date=March 28, 2021}}</ref>
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