Editing Liubo (section)

==Relationship to other games==
Some scholars associate Liubo to other board games, and in particular some Chinese scholars believe that [[Xiangqi]] (Chinese chess) was based on Liubo.<ref>{{cite web | title=Give up Persian Chess&nbsp;– play Chinese Chess instead! (interview between Dr. René Gralla and Prof. David H. Li) | publisher=ChessBase | date=2005-06-15 | url=http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2455 | quote=Professor Li, it seems to be that historians from China endorse your thesis&nbsp;– that the origins of chess can be found in China. In summary: XiangQi originates from the mysterious game Liubo; Liubo turned into GeWu, the latter has turned into Proto-XiangQi. Peter Banaschak analysed the sources that the representatives of the Chinese school cite, and he thinks that all those quotations from the past can be references to some game, but not necessarily to the game of chess or XiangQi. | access-date=2009-06-26}}</ref> Some historians believe that Xiangqi is not related to [[Persian chess]], but was based on Liubo{{fact|date=January 2025}}, whereas others have suggested that Liubo was transmitted from China to India during the [[Eastern Jin]] (317–420), where it developed into [[Chaturanga]], which was the ancestor to both Persian chess and Chinese chess.<ref>{{cite web | title=Liubo&nbsp;– the Ancestor of Board Games | publisher=Cultural China | url=http://kaleidoscope.cultural-china.com/en/140K2115K5502.html | quote=According to the research of modern board game historians, liubo is actually the ancestor of all battle board games of the world today, such as Chinese chess, chess etc. These games all evolve from liubo. | access-date=2009-06-26}}</ref> Jean-Louis Cazaux has argued that Chinese chess could have been the result of hybridization between Indian or Persian chess and Liubo, which could have been transformed from a race game to a battle game.<ref name=cazaux2001>{{cite web|last=Cazaux |first=Jean-Louis |title=Is Chess a Hybrid Game ? |year=2001 |pages=5–8 |url=http://www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-jostenge/cazaux.pdf |quote=My idea, very speculative I must confess, is that someone could have turned this race game into a confrontation game opposing in each side the 6 stones as Soldiers, with a notion of promotion during the course of the game, and 10 fishes as Officers. ... Also, to divide the two sides on a battlefield, the best was probably to convert the central water into a river in the middle. |access-date=2009-06-26 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20071216215641/http://www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-jostenge/cazaux.pdf |archive-date=December 16, 2007}}</ref> However, most game historians believe that Xiangqi originates from Indian or Persian chess<ref>[http://www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-jostenge/cazaux.pdf Cazaux, Jean-Loius. 2001. Is Chess a Hybrid Game ?] "A westward birth followed by an eastward diffusion. An Indian origin of Chess is
the dominating opinion among historians so far."</ref><ref name=cazaux/>{{rp|334}} and reject the claim that Xiangqi or other [[chess variants]] derive from Liubo.<ref>{{cite web | last=Banaschak | first=Peter | title=A story well told is not necessarily true&nbsp;– being a critical assessment of David H. Li's "The Genealogy of Chess" | url=http://www.banaschak.net/schach/ligenealogyofchess.htm | access-date=2009-06-26}}</ref> In a more recent publication, Cazaux opines that both the hypotheses of an Indian, Persian or Chinese origin of chess have some plausibility.<ref name=cazaux>Cazaux, Jean-Louis; Knowlton, Rick (2017). A World of Chess. Its Development and Variations through Centuries and Civilizations. McFarland. P. 349-352. "So, did chess first arise in India, Persia or China? Each hypothesis has credible support, but each one also leaves quite considerable doubts.</ref>