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== Maps of Cities - again ==

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I have recently been told of the format of maps used on the Welsh Wikipedia - [http://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontardawe a sample] these are quite simple, the dot can be moved around as much as neccessary and thus a single map can be used to indicate any number of places (i.e. their are two images, a map and the dot). The current city maps are too inaccurate, require much time to process and check and they are not everyones ideal map. It is better to know the general location within Ireland rather than the boundaries within a county. This could be ideal to replace the city maps and as well could be applied to all county towns any ideas and input ? [[User:Djegan|Djegan]] 19:29, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

:I have tested it in [[Mozilla Firefox|mozilla]] and [[Internet Explorer|iexplore]] and it looks fine except that tranparency does not work well in iexplore [[User:Djegan|Djegan]]

In summary: A map showing the location of a city or town can be created, preferrably, using the county map and simply overlaying a dot on the location of the place. This avoids having to create map for every city or town and avoids the process of creating new maps. In addition the original county map remains unedited and can be used, if neccessary, for several towns. This should be used for all [[cities in Ireland]], except [[Dublin]], as these cities are quite small and it is difficult to get accurate maps. [[User:Djegan|Djegan]] 21:47, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

:The maps need to be smaller, preferably half the size of your example. The information they impart to the article ''is'' needed (namely the location), but its importance is not such that it should eat valuable page real-estate. Plus if the map is small enough, it can be added to lesser town articles without drowning out their content or leaving no space for a photo. [[User:Zoney|'''zoney''']] <span style="font-size:large; color:green;">&#09827;</span> [[User talk:Zoney|'''talk''']] 22:28, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

:: I am not keen on smaller maps at all - if we are to use a smaller map then a new Ireland map would be neccessary, shrinking the standard Ireland maps does not do it justice even with the inbuilt smoothing features in wikipedia. Either way a full map of Ireland is essential rather than county based as the feedback seams to confirm this (Irish wikipedians' (and other interested parties) please give your opinions as a good discussion is neccessary before any implementation!) [[User:Djegan|Djegan]] 20:20, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

::: How about a middle ground between the county-sized maps and a full sized map?  Surely taking four quadrant maps and using whichever is appropriate will give enough contextual information about a town and its county, without taking up as much space as a similarly scaled map of all of Ireland.  An extent of coastline and a few surrounding counties might be enough.  [[User:AndrewH|AndrewH]] 09:16, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I have one some places in the new style of map: [[Dún Laoghaire]], [[Swords, Dublin|Swords]], [[Tallaght]] - the three seats of local goverment of the new counties created in 1994. [[User:Djegan|Djegan]] 14:21, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

: I have changed all the cities in the Republic of Ireland to correspond to this format, any comments? [[User:Djegan|Djegan]] 22:17, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

:: In the Dublin county ones, could the county boundary be made a bit heavier than the sub-divisions?  Just a thought.  [[User:AndrewH|AndrewH]] 09:18, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)