Incubator escapee wiki:Articles for deletion/Teh

For a previous deletion debate see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teh (old)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was - kept

Teh

Non-notable "l33t" dicdef. Oh, and Something awful didn't invent the term either, Gaming-Age forums did. Delete Terrapin 21:25, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

• Keep, quite notable, and a bit more than a dicdef.PlasmaDragon 22:07, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Neutral. But I know a man named Andy Teh, who used to own a business called "Teh Construction Company". No joke. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:55, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)
  • Maybe we should have an article for AAAAA. (Kidding.) Lotsa businesses jockey for yellow pages priority with that ploy. Gets them listed even before Aardvark Nosehair Removal.--NathanHawking 07:38, 2004 Oct 17 (UTC)
• This has already gone through VfD in May and consensus was to keep. RickK 22:57, Oct 16, 2004 (UTC)
  • That was may, it's now October and it's still non-notable. We can revote. Terrapin 00:23, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. Useless nonsense. Gamaliel 00:06, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. Drivel. --LeeHunter 01:07, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. Common enough to be recognised, and well enough written to be retained. Denni☯ 02:41, 2004 Oct 17 (UTC)
• Keep. It's used a lot on teh intarweb. bbx 03:45, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. A good article, and we have many that are just like it. Fishal 03:47, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Delete: We shouldn't have many just like it or any. This is ephemera. As for how widespread it is, it isn't unless you're of a certain age and mindset. My first e-mail was 1989. My first website was 1992. Prior to those, I was using private BBS's. I have hardly gone a day without using the web or Internet since, and yet 3 months ago I went on IRC for the first time and had to be told what "teh" was. I think it's a bit myopic to think this is a global phenomenon or a stable one. I should also point out that autocorrect takes any transposition into account, so the recognition of "teh" as a mistake is not remarkable. In fact, I've always found it a very uncommon transposition among those who touch type. For them, eth (firing of right and left hands in the wrong order) seems more common. Geogre 04:01, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • If it's ephemera, then you can delete the article when no-one uses it. I also have a similar internet usage history to you - and I didn't know what the word exactly meant either. I looked it up here. Read this article actually - about a week ago - and then I knew. Good old wikipedia with its inclusive article policy. Keep.--Tomheaton 20:59, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. Not encyclopedic. --Improv 06:03, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. Lots of people spew coffee on their keyboards when they read something funny. Should we have a Coffee stains on keyboard article? Gimme a break. Trivial and transient.--NathanHawking 07:38, 2004 Oct 17 (UTC)
• Keep Could be useful to some people, common usage. history of things like this is notable. - [[User:Cohesion|cohesion ☎]] 07:41, Oct 17, 2004 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is not a spelling dictionary for common misspellings. If there is anything useful in this article, merge it into leet. jni 12:51, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• k33p. l33t 1z t3h g00d Passw0rd 17:17, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Merge and direct to leetspeak. This is a fairly notable word in that category, and always a reliable source for comedy, but ignorable everywhere else. Ian Pugh 18:22, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Comment. I was going to mention that this was a relisting, and see RickK has noted this above. I believe that when relisting something that has previously survived VfD, the nominator should mention the fact, recap the previous VfD history, link to the old discussion, and give a specific reason why the outcome should be different this time. I don't want to make a big hairy deal about this, it's a borderline article, last VfD was more than three months ago, and this is not a case of a contentious issue which is being deliberately relisted by POV-pushers. But unless someone can find the previous discussion—which seems to have been overwritten by this one?—so I can review what happened last time, how close the consensus was, and why the outcome went the way it did, I will vote "keep" on principle. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 18:55, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC) OK, make my vote a Keep on the basis that it is a relisting and that I think relistings require a careful justification, which has not been made. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 23:16, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC).
• Strong keep, probably the most notable misspelling of the keyboard age (and hence its presence in leet), its certainly more notable on its own that leet is as a whole, and thus should not be merged there. —siroχo 20:34, Oct 17, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. This goes well beyond a dictionary definition. Smerdis of Tlön 11:45, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Quite funny, Wikipedia needs a few unusual articles. Keep. - Mike Rosoft 12:30, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• K33p. Yeah, sure, l33t is crappy, but teh is one of l33t's more notable constructions (along with pwn and w00t). Kinitawowi 12:43, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
  • Oh, and I forgot to mention; needless VfD relisting is bad. What Dpbsmith said. Kinitawowi 12:45, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
• 'Keep Notable DCEdwards1966 18:00, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable, encyclopedic, contains history and analysis, has been shown to be helpful to at least one user and has not been shown to be harmful in any way. Wiki is not paper. Already passed VfD once, and recently. Nominating user appears to be on a VfD-vendetta against pages associated in any way with Something Awful. Saucepan 18:29, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Agree with Saucepan's points and also observations on nominating user. Andylkl 15:03, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. I hate leet speak. I've never used it, and never will. But this is a nice quirky little article about a quirky little part of internet culture. - Lifefeed 20:54, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to leet. Being in an auto-correct list for word processors does not provide it notability outside the sphere of leet. -- WOT 21:57, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. Definite keep and (yet another) frivolous VfD listing to boot. Radman1 15:01, 18 Oct 2004 (PST)
• Keep. Intrigue 23:22, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. I use it all teh time. --Timecop 04:11, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Kpee. We ndee mroe stfuu lkie tihs fi wnat ot eb a greta encyclopedai. Antandrus 04:16, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Delete WP is not a slang dictionary. Gazpacho 11:32, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep or merge. A valid example of internet culture, deserves mention, and it's not a dictdef. Merging with Leet would be fine by me as well.
• Keep. No basis for deletion. GRider 20:01, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep or Merge Yes it's a stupid phenomena, but it exists. This is actually a good article jericho4.0 23:20, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable leet web term in the same vein as w00t.--Goobergunch 02:34, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep. Mackensen 22:28, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep any article that has survived VfD within the last six months (my personal standard). SWAdair | Talk 09:08, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Keep teh is here to stay, both as typo and leetspeak.
• Keep it! T3h is a typo and l33tsp33k.
• Redirect and merge into leet. -- The Anome 09:57, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• R, what Anome said. +sj+ 13:27, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.