With Sympathy

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With Sympathy is the debut studio album by American industrial band Ministry, released on May 10, 1983, by Arista Records.<ref name="UCR WS">{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation |CitationClass=web }}</ref> The group was formed in 1981 by lead singer and multi-instrumentalist Al Jourgensen, with drummer Stephen George being the most notable member of its initial lineup. The album was briefly re-released overseas as Work for Love.

Background and recording

In late 1981, Jourgensen was living in Chicago and involved in its underground scene. He began to write and record songs in his apartment, using a newly bought ARP Omni synthesizer, a drum machine and a reel-to-reel tape recorder. At one point, a demo tape featuring the song "I'm Falling" gained the attention of Wax Trax! Records label co-founder and co-owner Jim Nash. Impressed by the demo, Nash offered to record its material professionally and to assemble the touring band, which Jourgensen named Ministry. At Chicago's Hedden West Studios, Jourgensen, with co-producers Jay O'Roarke and Iain Burgess, recorded Ministry's first material, a 12" single featuring the tracks "I'm Falling", "Primental" and "Cold Life".

Jourgensen assembled the band's first live lineup, a five-piece group including Jourgensen on vocals and guitar, bassist Martin Sorenson, keyboardists Robert Roberts and John Davis and drummer Stephen George.Template:Sfn Jourgensen and Roberts state that Roberts' inclusion in the group occurred because their mutual friend Paul Taylor was ill and unable to join.Template:Sfn<ref>Template:Cite interview</ref>

While touring the Midwest and the Northeast during 1982, Ministry received some commercial success with "Cold Life."<ref>Template:Cite book</ref><ref>Template:Cite news</ref> The band gained the attention of Arista label executives, who chose to sign them. With Sympathy was recorded in Autumn 1982 with producers Vince Ely and Ian Taylor at the Syncro Sound recording studio in Boston.<ref name="Billboard on the W.S. recording/mixing">Template:Bulleted list</ref>

Critical reception

Template:Album ratings On release, With Sympathy received mixed to negative reviews. However, Rolling Stone noted that any lack of originality in the synth-pop concept was "... hardly worth complaining about, because Ministry manages to do something many far more innovative bands neglect: they write catchy dance songs."<ref name="RS"/> The review further observed that Jourgensen's singing was "... charged with anger, passion and glee–real emotions instead of the vocal posturing so common in synth-pop." The album achieved commercial success, peaking at number 94 in the Billboard 200 and selling more than 100,000 copies in the U.S. by 2007. The album was promoted with three singles—"Work for Love", "I Wanted to Tell Her" and "Revenge"—and the three-month tour. A music video was made for the single "Revenge." Retrospectively, many Ministry fans still dislike the album, but some people now have defended or even championed it, proclaiming it to be an “underrated” or “misunderstood” album.

Retrospective impressions by Al Jourgensen

Following the tour's completion, Jourgensen's dissatisfaction over his record deal led the band to depart Arista in early 1984. Jourgensen later disowned the album, maintaining that he had been pressured by Arista management into the then-popular synth-pop style, which is in contrast to the harder industrial and heavy metal sounds that he would later develop.Template:Sfn He compared the experience to that of Milli Vanilli.<ref>{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation |CitationClass=web }}</ref> Jourgensen has described the album as a "sonic abortion".<ref>Wiederhorn, Jon. Ministry: The Lost Gospels According to Al Jourgensen. 2013.</ref> He also claims that Arista had prevented songs that he had written in 1982 from appearing on the album; these tracks would eventually appear on The Land of Rape and Honey and Twitch.<ref>{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation |CitationClass=web }}</ref>

However, according to Ian MacKaye, with whom Jourgensen formed Pailhead, Jourgensen discovered hardcore music after his synth-pop work,<ref name="azzerad1">Template:Cite book</ref> a statement that Jourgensen repeated in the documentary film Industrial Accident: The Story of Wax Trax! Records.<ref name="Nash">Template:Citation</ref> Former keyboardist Robert Roberts refutes claims that Jourgensen was forced by Arista to "make the record cheesy," saying that the finished product was simply watered down and did not properly capture the band's live sound.<ref name="Session">{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation |CitationClass=web }}</ref> Additionally, video recordings of Ministry concerts in Chicago several years before their signing with Arista show the band playing synth-pop and dressed in new wave and dark wave styles.Template:Citation needed

Jourgensen's disdain for the album led him to make a comment that he would only sign the album in exchange for $1000. In an interview with Rolling Stone, he said that a fan presented him with the album for him to sign along with the $1000. Although surprised, he honored his promise and signed the album in exchange for the money. Jourgensen also stated that he donated the money to Rock for Kids, a Chicago based charity event, and should anyone else pay him to sign the album, he would continue to donate the money to Rock for Kids.<ref>Template:Cite magazine</ref>

Jourgensen assumes a false English accent for all of the songs, for which he later expressed regret.<ref name="aj1">Template:Cite book</ref> His ex-wife Patty stated in 2013 that doing so was an homage to bands that he had liked.<ref name="porg1">{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation |CitationClass=web }}</ref>

Jourgensen has since made peace with the album, saying that "... because of that record I wouldn’t be who I am today. I think without that record, I wouldn't be as much of a fucking maniac douchebag. So I'm thankful for it now."<ref>{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation |CitationClass=web }}</ref>

In June 2023, Jourgensen announced that Ministry would re-record four tracks from With Sympathy: "Revenge", "Effigy", "Work for Love", and "Here We Go". The new versions will be "a lot more guitar-driven, but not metal."<ref>{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation |CitationClass=web }}</ref>

On August 24th, 2023, Ministry performed "Revenge" live for the first time since 1984 in Dallas, Texas.<ref>Template:Cite news</ref> The song was performed again in August 27th, 2023 in West Palm Beach, Florida.<ref>{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation |CitationClass=web }}</ref>

In December of 2023, it was announced that Ministry would be performing at the 2024 Cruel World Festival with a setlist consisting of songs from both With Sympathy and Twitch.<ref>{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation |CitationClass=web }}</ref> The setlist included "Revenge", "Effigy (I'm Not An)" and "Work for Love", the later two being performed live for the first time since 1984.<ref>{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation |CitationClass=web }}</ref>

On March 28, 2025, Ministry released the compilation album The Squirrely Years Revisited through Cleopatra Records. It contains the songs "Revenge", "Effigy (I'm Not An)", "Here We Go", "Work for Love" all re-recorded along with several other songs from non-album singles and 3 songs from Twitch.<ref>Template:Cite news</ref><ref>Template:Cite news</ref>

Reissue

With Sympathy was out of print for many years, and Jourgensen claimed that he had destroyed the master tapes. In 2012, Eastworld Records reissued the album with three bonus tracks.<ref name="TheIdealCopy">Template:Cite news</ref>

In popular culture

"Effigy (I'm Not An)" was used in a scene in HBO's Euphoria, Season 2, Episode 3.

Track listing

• "What He Say" was renamed "Do the Etawa" on the European release.<ref name=goldmine>Template:Cite magazine</ref>Template:Rp
• The European LP release has the 7" remix of "I Wanted To Tell Her" instead of the U.S. album version. All CD versions use the U.S. album version.

Personnel

Credits adapted from the liner notes of With Sympathy.<ref>Template:Cite AV media notes</ref> Template:Col-begin Template:Col-2

Ministry

• Al Jourgensen - vocals, guitar Template:Small, keyboards, drums Template:Small
• Stephen George - drums Template:Small, percussion Template:Small

Additional musicians

• Robert Roberts - keyboards Template:Small, bass keyboard Template:Small
• Marybeth O'Hara - vocals Template:Small
• Shay Jones - feature vocals Template:Small
• John Davis - keyboards Template:Small
• Walter Turbitt - guitar Template:Small
• Martin Sorenson - bass guitar Template:Small
• Vince Ely - percussion & keyboards Template:Small
• Antonia de Portago - vocals Template:Small
• Brad Hallen - bass guitar Template:Small
• Ministry of Horns - horns Template:Small
• Ziv Gidron - chanting Template:Small
• Doreen Chanter - vocals Template:Small
• Bob Suber - saxophone Template:Small

Technical staff

• Ian Taylor - producer, engineer
• Vince Ely - producer
• David Wooley - engineer
• Flood - engineer
• David Heglmeier - tape operator
• Roger Merritt - tape operator
• Steve Jackson - tape operator
• Greg Calbi - mastering
• Joe Gastwirt - digital remastering Template:Small

Management

• Steve Berkowitz - manager
• Elliot Roberts - manager

Artwork

• Alberto Rizzo - photographer
• David Gahr - inner sleeve photographer
• Brian Shanley - cover concepts
• Jim Nash - cover concepts

Chart positions

Album

Chart (1984)	Peak position
US Billboard 200<ref>{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation	CitationClass=web }}</ref>	94

Singles

Song (1983)	US Dance <ref>{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation	CitationClass=web }}</ref>	NZ <ref>{{#invoke:citation/CS1|citation	CitationClass=web }}</ref>
"Work for Love"	20	—
"I Wanted to Tell Her"	13	35
"Revenge"	—	—

References

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Bibliography

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External links

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• Video for "Revenge" on YouTube